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2010-03-13 AC0585 EWR YYC 0745 1026 Adam Smith C-FHON?

2010-03-11
AC254 YVR-YEG
ATD: 22:47
Takeoff: 23:04
ATA: 01:09 (+1)
Tail Number: C-FHON E190 0 33000 11/03/2010 23:05:12

Only E190 departure from YVR at around 23:00 (0 33000 usually means it's ascending)

2010-03-12
AC233 YEG-YVR
ATD: 06:15
DG: 54
ATA: 07:11

Nearly two hours of ground time at YVR is consistent with gate changes, etc. for morning flights. I observed this with C-FZUB as AC201/AC142 when verifying your AC224.

AC206 YVR-YYC
STD: 09:00
ATA: 11:28

AC584 YYC-EWR
ATD: 12:29
ATA: 19:21

2010-03-13
AC585 EWR-YYC
STD: 07:45
ATA: 10:26


AC211 YYC-YVR
ATD: 11:11
ATA: 11:34
Tail Number: C-FHON   E190 0097 Air Canada \nAC0211  (YYC-YVR) 1107 20100313

For me, this is the routing that makes the best sense using flights that listed an E190 as their equipment. I'll still need your approval for this unless I exhaust all known possibilities.

This one feels tenuous. The combination of AC206 to AC584 on the 12th doesn’t inspire much confidence. The 45 minute turn going from domestic to transborder is very tight. YYC had switch gates back then but they weren’t necessarily quick to switch, depending on where you were parked and how the terminal was configured at the moment.

Looking at other E90 arrivals scheduled in to YYC around that time, AC585 from EWR was scheduled to arrive at 11:08, which would have been a more plausible inbound. AC113 from YOW, scheduled in at 10:30, also feels possible. Plenty of time to be towed or wait for a switch gate to be reconfigured.

I was surprised that the plane would have sat overnight at EWR, but it did look like everything else AC at EWR around that time was either an E75 (YYZ) or a 319 (YVR), so AC584 on the 12th probably is the inbound if we can figure that out.

There was also another early morning E90 departure from YEG on the 12th, AC114 to YYZ, that could have been C-FHON. And there are a number of ways it could have gotten from there to YYC to operate that 211 on the 13th.

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2009-12-08 AC0145 YYZ YYC 2030 2251 Adam Smith C-GARJ?

2009-12-08
AC128 YYC-YYZ
ATD: 13:27
ATA: 19:13
Tail Number: C-GARJ (A319 AC) 0053 20091209 AC0128 (YYC-YYZ) [Cambridge-2, Ontario, Canada]

AC145 YYZ-YYC
STD: 20:30
ATA: 22:51

2009-12-09

AC546 YYC-LAS
ATD: 08:40
ATA: 10:30

AC545 LAS-YVR
ATD: 11:14
ATA: 14:01
Tail Number: C-GARJ (A319 AC) 2111 20091209 AC0545 (LAS-YVR) [somewhere]

AC145 was listed as an A319 that day, and when you try to trace the A319 movements (flights that were listed as an A319, not necessarily those that were operated by an A319 that day) you get that. The closest and most viable A319 arrival at YYZ was AC128, and tracing back its movements on the 9th will lead you back to YYC which perfectly aligns with AC145's time.

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found 2009-12-08 AC0145 YYZ YYC 2030 2251 Adam Smith C-GARJ #8328

I’d agree that AC545 LAS-YVR definitely had to be operated by the aircraft that came in as AC546 from YYC. There was a YYZ-LAS that was scheduled to arrive only a few minutes after that might, in theory, have been able to do the LAS-YVR, but it was delayed and arrived far too late, so that’s clean.

I’m not too hung up on the fact I had originally posted this as an A321. I suspect that came from the booking confirmation. This would have been a trip booked fairly close in, but still, reasonable chance that it could have changed. FlightStats and FlightAware do both show it as having been an A319.

The only other way for C-GARJ to have gotten to YYC in time would have been to operate AC141 later the evening of the 8th. FlightStats shows that as having been an E90, and if that’s correct, it would give us a definitive answer. But we know the types listed there aren’t always correct… So, any intel on that flight that would help us make this 100%? (I think it’s 95% now, don’t get me wrong, just curious whether we can make it definitive).

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2008-11-21 AC0118 YYC YOW 1155 1749 Adam Smith C-FGMF?

2008-11-20
AC266 YWG-YYZ
STD: 13:05
ATA: 16:27
Tail Number: C-FGMF (E190 AC) 2204 20081120 AC0266 (YWG-YYZ) [Toronto, Canada]

AC614 YYZ-YHZ
ATD: 17:03
DG: 140
ATA: 20:01

2008-11-21
AC661 YHZ-YUL
STD: 06:05
ATA: 07:09

AC165 YUL-YYC
STD: 08:55
ATA: 11:27

AC118 YYC-YOW
STD: 11:55
DG: B22
ATA: 17:53


AC118 YOW-YHZ
ATD: 18:45
DG: 27
ATA: 21:16

2008-11-22
AC607 YHZ-YYZ
ATD: 14:05 (severely delayed from 07:45)
DG: 23
ATA: 15:48
Tail Number: C-FGMF (E190 AC) 2116 20081122 AC0607 (YHZ-YYZ) [Toronto, Canada]

I think there’s too much distance between these data points. This might be correct, but I suspect that AC614 on the 20th went to YUL as AC671 at 20:55. It could still have operated the AC165 either way, but unless we have departure/arrival gates, I don’t think we really know with any certainty.

The AC118 that arrived at YHZ as the continuation of my flight would have sat around overnight, but so would several other E90s, so I don’t think there’s any way to tie that AC607 the next day to the previous evening’s AC118.

I suspect I could come up with quite a few different paths for an E90 to take that would tie the AC266 on the 20th to the AC607 on the 22nd that wouldn’t involve the AC118 I’m looking for.

Can these be finally removed from the list? I think I already solved them months ago, so I don't know why they're still here. 😅

found 2016-07-09 AC7763 YQM YHZ 1305 1350 Adam Smith C-GORI #8367
found 2018-05-28 AC7760 YHZ YQM 1405 1447 Adam Smith C-GLXV #8367
found 2018-05-28 AC7763 YQM YHZ 1515 1549 Adam Smith C-GLXV #8367
found 2018-05-29 AC7782 YQX YYT 0520 0612 Adam Smith C-FPUB #8367

Are some of these the ones that conflicted with what I had already found, and my friend’s photos? I thought I had addressed all of those ones that were proposed while I wasn’t on this site for a few months, but it’s possible I missed looking at some, or did look at them but forgot to reply.
 

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Hi @zeus1309, do you have these in your database? I can't seem to find the tail numbers on both ACARS and DFLD.

2010-09-07 FB0437 SOF FRA 1600 1730 B463 fakepcy
2011-08-21 FB0438 FRA SOF 1830 2200 B463 fakepcy

Runway, times, and gate data needed:
2010-08-15 FB0438 FRA SOF 1830 2150 LZ-HVB
2011-09-09 FB0437 SOF FRA 1600 1730 LZ-FBB

Thank you in advance!
 
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2008-01-20 MS0748 ATH CAI 1330 A320 stockerz
2008-01-20 EK0924 CAI DXB 1915 B772 stockerz
2008-01-21 EK0420 DXB PER 0235 B77W stockerz
2010-01-07 IB0656 MAD BCN 0655 A320 stockerz
2010-01-19 CX0710 CMB SIN 0005 B773 stockerz
2010-01-19 QF0072 SIN PER 0900 A333 stockerz

Danke
 

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2008-01-20 MS0748 ATH CAI 1330 A320 stockerz
2008-01-20 EK0924 CAI DXB 1915 B772 stockerz
2008-01-21 EK0420 DXB PER 0235 B77W stockerz
2010-01-07 IB0656 MAD BCN 0655 A320 stockerz
2010-01-19 CX0710 CMB SIN 0005 B773 stockerz
2010-01-19 QF0072 SIN PER 0900 A333 stockerz

Danke
found 2008-01-21 EK0420 DXB PER 0235 1820 stockerz A6-EBC #8430
found 2010-01-19 QF0072 SIN PER 0900 1410 stockerz VH-QPI #8430
 
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Amazing thank you! Perhaps you could help with these ones too.

2007-12-18 EK0421 PER DXB 2330 0545 B77W stockerz
2009-01-16 QF0078 SIN PER 1945 0155 A333 stockerz
 

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found 1999-03-19 BD0131 LHR DUB 1725 1840 A321 Genfersee G-MIDF #8433

17:25 18:40 BD131 1 2 3 4 5 6 7

FM Shows G-MIDA for BD131 on 21.03.1999
LHR log
423 BMA9EV GMIDA A321 EIDW 1831 1725 1814 N88

LHR log 19.03.1999
455,"BMA9EV","GMIDF","A321","EIDW","1820","1725","1802","N84","0","027R","1","1","","5","190399"
 

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@Genfersee

found 1999-03-19 BD0131 LHR DUB 1725 1840 A321 Genfersee G-MIDF #8433

17:25 18:40 BD131 1 2 3 4 5 6 7

FM Shows G-MIDA for BD131 on 21.03.1999
LHR log
423 BMA9EV GMIDA A321 EIDW 1831 1725 1814 N88

LHR log 19.03.1999
455,"BMA9EV","GMIDF","A321","EIDW","1820","1725","1802","N84","0","027R","1","1","","5","190399"
May I know how you download the data? When I click on March 1999 on Heathrow Archives 1990'S, nothing happens. Similar thing happens for the 1997 AA flights on the forum. Thanks.
 

Adam Smith

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You're right, thank you. I use Chrome but I just discovered that the download works on Safari.

There has been an issue with Chrome and lhr-lgw for a while. Clicking the link multiple times used to sometimes work. Lately I think a right click and "save target as" is required, but should work. Some kind of security precaution.
 
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1993-11-05 BA0980 LHR HAJ ---- ---- B734 Genfersee
1993-12-03 BA0980 LHR HAJ ---- ---- B734 Genfersee

Hier mal etwas Spekulatius:

Ich habe in 11+12/1993 nur jeweils zwei Flüge ankommend aus HAJ bei LHR Logs gefunden:

BA0975 ETA 08:35
BA0979 ETA 18:15

Abfliegend die lt. FM
BA0976 früh morgens und von HAJ dann weiter nach LEJ (und scheinbar weiter durch die Gegend fliegend um dann als BA0979 zurückzukommen)
BA0980 ca. 18 Uhr bis 20 Uhr.

Mein Tip ist nun, dass die BA0980 am nächsten Morgen als BA0975 nach LHR zurückfliegt, was dann folgende Treffer geben würde:

1993-11-05 BA0980

BAW975GDOCP
734​
B73SEDVV
822​
835​
C34
1​
09L
1​
6​
61193​

1993-12-03 BA0980

BAW975GDOCU
734​
B73SEDVV
848​
835​
B19
1​
27R
1​
6​
41293​


Hat eine von den Flugplanspezialisten evtl. einen Flugplan BA Winter 1993 oder HAJ Winter 1993? @rolandditz

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1997-10-06 EW0586 PAD ZRH ---- ---- Genfersee
1997-10-10 EW0587 ZRH PAD ---- ---- Genfersee

Evtl. interessant: Lt. FP EW Sommer 1997 hatte der Flug einen Zwischenstopp in DTM

EW eurowings 1997 8 itinerarios 2.JPG


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1997-10-06 SR0922 ZRH GVA 0950 1035 32S Genfersee
1997-10-10 SR0937 GVA ZRH 1730 1820 32S Genfersee

Times taken from SR timetable 30.03.97-29.06.1997
 
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1999-11-13 TZ---- CLE LAS ---- ---- 722 Adam Smith
1999-11-17 TZ---- LAS CLE ---- ---- 722 Adam Smith

You mentioned that have you ordered a timetable eff 10/1999 on Ebay. Have you got it and if so, have you found the flights? I ask since I believe that they are charter flight (like the ones in 11/2000) and so they should not be visible in the timetable.
 

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1999-11-13 TZ---- CLE LAS ---- ---- 722 Adam Smith
1999-11-17 TZ---- LAS CLE ---- ---- 722 Adam Smith

You mentioned that have you ordered a timetable eff 10/1999 on Ebay. Have you got it and if so, have you found the flights? I ask since I believe that they are charter flight (like the ones in 11/2000) and so they should not be visible in the timetable.

Actually, these are my friend Tim's flights, and he's the one who ordered the timetable :)

But yes, they were not in the timetable. Tim is confident they were chartered by an outfit called Funjet and that he purchased through AAA's travel agency. Same for the ones from the following year. For the 2000 flights, he found some physical package he got that thanked him for buying from Funjet that had the flight numbers, which is why we have them for 2000 but not 1999.
 

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Ich habe mich endlich dazu durchgerungen, die ausführende Airline getrennt zu erfassen. Die Registrierung ist nebensächlich, aber das eine führt bekanntlich zum anderen. Dafür benötige ich leider 36x eure Mithilfe. 😕 Danke schon mal im Voraus. (hoffentlich habe ich die Formatierung richtig hinbekommen)

2014-01-15 AB8990 TXL-VCE B737 freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline)
2015-09-13 –3304 CPH-SXF B738 freddie.frobisher (welche Norwegian auch immer; bitte Flugnummer und ausführende Airline)
2015-11-08 AB6560 STR-TXL B738 freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline)
2018-01-15 U25544 FRA-TXL A320 freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline)
2018-01-17 EW7055 NUE-HAM A320 freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline)
2018-01-24 EW0018 CGN-TXL A319 freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline)
2018-02-20 EW1790 MUC-NRN A319 freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline)
2018-04-05 EW8064 TXL-NUE DH8D freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline)
2018-04-10 U25565 TXL-MUC A320 freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline)
2018-08-11 EW6813 DTM-PMI A320 freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline)
2018-10-28 U24588 TRN-SXF A320 freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline)
2018-12-02 EW8123 FKB-TXL A320 freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline)
2019-01-27 EW2058 STR-TXL A320 freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline)
2019-02-02 FR2426 FRA-KRK B738 freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline)
2019-02-16 U25815 TXL-PMI A319 freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline)
2019-03-04 EW6800 PMI-LEJ A320 freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline)
2019-04-19 EW9776 DUS-ZRH A320 freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline)
2019-11-16 FR2147 TXL-PMI B738 freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline)
2019-12-07 FR0196 SXF-BUD B738 freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline)
2019-12-09 –3302 CPH-SXF B738 freddie.frobisher (welche Norwegian auch immer; bitte Flugnummer und ausführende Airline)
2020-01-20 FR8558 DUB-SXF B738 freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline)
2020-02-15 FR5205 CGN-MLA B738 freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline)
2020-03-07 FR1144 SXF-MAN B738 freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline)
2021-04-17 EW4418 NUE-PMI A319 freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline)
2021-04-25 EW4419 PMI-NUE A319 freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline)
2021-07-24 FR4140 FRA-PMI B738 freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline)
2021-08-21 FR0110 BER-PMI B738 freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline)
2021-08-21 IB8518 PMI-IBZ CRJX freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline)
2021-10-23 FR1260 ATH-BGY B738 freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline)
2021-11-20 FR4484 NUE-SKG B738 freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline)
2021-12-04 SK2678 BER-ARN CRJ9 freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline)
2021-12-08 –4505 ARN-BER B738 freddie.frobisher (welche Norwegian auch immer; bitte Flugnummer und ausführende Airline)
2022-01-30 FR1689 BGY-FRA B738 freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline)
2022-02-05 FR1058 WAW-CRL B738 freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline)
2022-03-07 FR1638 EMA-BER B738 freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline)
2022-04-30 EW6850 PMI-HAJ A320 freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline)
3,5 Jahre später hat mich ein Forumskollege auf die Idee gebracht, dass ich in meiner Statistik vermutlich eine (genau genommen sogar 2) Airline übersehen habe.

2013-11-21 LX967 TXL-ZRH A320 freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline)
2013-12-01 LX1190 ZRH-NUE RJ1H freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline)
2015-03-08 LX966 ZRH-TXL A321 freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline)
2015-12-23 LX815 HAJ-ZRH A319 freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline)
2016-02-23 LX1072 ZRH-FRA B77W freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline)
2016-12-23 LX817 HAJ-ZRH B77W freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline)
2017-08-06 LX970 ZRH-TXL BCS1 freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline)

2018-02-16 LX1027 DUS-ZRH A320 freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline)
2018-12-22 LX981 TXL-ZRH BCS3 freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline)

Die roten könnten SWU statt SWR gewesen sein, korrekt?
 

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3,5 Jahre später hat mich ein Forumskollege auf die Idee gebracht, dass ich in meiner Statistik vermutlich eine (genau genommen sogar 2) Airline übersehen habe.

2013-11-21 LX967 TXL-ZRH A320 freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline)
2013-12-01 LX1190 ZRH-NUE RJ1H freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline)
2015-03-08 LX966 ZRH-TXL A321 freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline)
2015-12-23 LX815 HAJ-ZRH A319 freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline)
2016-02-23 LX1072 ZRH-FRA B77W freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline)
2016-12-23 LX817 HAJ-ZRH B77W freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline)
2017-08-06 LX970 ZRH-TXL BCS1 freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline)

2018-02-16 LX1027 DUS-ZRH A320 freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline)
2018-12-22 LX981 TXL-ZRH BCS3 freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline)

Die roten könnten SWU statt SWR gewesen sein, korrekt?
found 2013-11-21 LX0967 TXL-ZRH A320 freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline) HB-IJJ o.b. SWR #8445
found 2013-12-01 LX1190 ZRH-NUE RJ1H freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline) HB-IYZ o.b. SWR #8445
found 2015-03-08 LX0966 ZRH-TXL A321 freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline) HB-IOK o.b. SWR #8445
found 2015-12-23 LX0815 HAJ-ZRH A319 freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline) HB-IPT o.b. SWR #8445
found 2016-02-23 LX1072 ZRH-FRA B77W freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline) HB-JNA o.b SWU #8445
found 2017-08-06 LX970 ZRH-TXL BCS1 freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline) HB-JBB o.b SWU #8445
found 2018-02-16 LX1027 DUS-ZRH A320 freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline) HB-IJP o.b. SWR #8445
found 2018-12-22 LX0981 TXL-ZRH BCS3 freddie.frobisher (bitte ausführende Airline) HB-JCO o.b. SWR #8445
 

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Also den hier hätte ich der "Swiss European" (2005-2015) zugeordnet?!?


Zumindest habe ich meine beiden 2008er Flüge mit den Avrolinern unter "SWU" getrackt.
ok, da hab ich nicht gesucht, gucke meist bei rizjet. Gut, das das nicht mein Flug ist, wüsste jetzt nicht wen ich als operating Airline nehmen würde 😊

Edit: Airfleets sagt auch SWU, also 2:1 für SWU.

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ok, da hab ich nicht gesucht, gucke meist bei rizjet. Gut, das das nicht mein Flug ist, wüsste jetzt nicht wen ich als operating Airline nehmen würde 😊

Edit: Airfleets sagt auch SWU, also 2:1 für SWU.
"2:1 nachdem das 1:2 zurückgepfiffen wurde"

Airfleets hat das mit der Swiss European und Swiss Global nämlich erst ca. 2022(?) nachgezogen. Zuvor waren sie dort einfach unter "Swiss" hinterlegt, weshalb ich meine Avro Flüge erst als SWR verbucht hatte. Irgendwann (und evtl. auch genau deshalb) bin ich aber zu https://www.planespotters.net/ als meine Hauptquelle gewechselt, wo sie schon unter SWU standen.

Für meine Master-Excelliste würde das bedeuten:
SWUx für Swiss European (2005-2015)
SWUy für Swiss Global (2015-2018) [bedeutende Namensänderung]
SWU für SkyAlps

Wobei ich (bislang) nur die Swiss European geflogen bin und somit solange dort als "SWU" stehen bleiben darf, bis evtl. mal die SkyAlps dazu kommt...
 

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Jetzt habe ich anscheinend tatsächlich das gleiche "Problem": Bin mit F-HBXG im November 2013 NUE-CDG geflogen.
Eigentlich eine klare Sache: Airfleets sagt Régional und v.a. die Maschine selbst auch in Régional Livery.
Die Reg habe ich aus einem Foto beim Einsteigen...

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Doch Planespotters meint folgendes:
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Airfleets sagt hingegen:
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...operates for Hop, nicht by Hop.

Wie würdet ihr das loggen, wenn man standardmäßig die Operating Airline nimmt - RAE oder HOP?
(Régional habe ich schon aus 2008 mit einer E145, HOP aber nur als "Air France Hop" nach 2019)
 
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