ANZEIGE
Hallo! Erstmal sorry, bin wohl doch noch eher Anfänger und evt überseh ich ja was total logisches. Folgendes:
Es geht um den Rückflug aus LAX nach BCN. Datum 15.3. Fare WLRCESW auf United für Flüge BCN-LAX. DEr outbound ist ex FRA und basiert auf einer S Fare.
Auf Kayak (und ITA) werden mit nur Flüge auf CO Metall angeboten via EWR. Nun müsste es aber doch auch andere Möglichkeiten geben. Wichtig wäre mir zunächst einmal UA Metall auf dem Transatlantik Part (fürs SWU-Upgrade). Bspw via FRA müsste das ja möglich sein. Laut Fare Routings:
"FRA" wird da ja bspw mehrfach genannt, es müsste doch also möglich sein, LAX-IAD-FRA-BCN zu fliegen mit der fare... UA856 und UA952 haben beide W9 im KVS Tool. Woran liegts, dass ich das nirgendwo angeboiten kriege? Liegt evt daran, dass ich das ganze mit einer S-Fare ex-FRA verbinde?
Profis vor
Der vollständigkeit halber hiernoch die kompletten fare rules:
Es geht um den Rückflug aus LAX nach BCN. Datum 15.3. Fare WLRCESW auf United für Flüge BCN-LAX. DEr outbound ist ex FRA und basiert auf einer S Fare.
Auf Kayak (und ITA) werden mit nur Flüge auf CO Metall angeboten via EWR. Nun müsste es aber doch auch andere Möglichkeiten geben. Wichtig wäre mir zunächst einmal UA Metall auf dem Transatlantik Part (fürs SWU-Upgrade). Bspw via FRA müsste das ja möglich sein. Laut Fare Routings:
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BCNLAX-UA 5JAN10 *RULE DISPLAY* TARIFF 0001 RULE W4ES
* ADD APPLICABLE TAX * FED INSP FEES *
-FARE BASIS EUR NUC PTC FT GI
WLRCESW R 420.00 622.46 ADT EX AT
WLRCESW/CH25 R 315.00 466.84 CNN EX AT
WLRCESW/IN90 R 42.00 62.24 INF EX AT
WLRCESW/IN25 R 315.00 466.84 INS EX AT
WLRCESW R 420.00 622.46 UNN EX AT
BOOKING CODES W
PFCS MAY VARY BY RTG
INDUSTRY FARE TYPE - XAT - 3RD LEVEL ADVANCE PURCHASE
MPM - AT 7311 VIA NORTH ATLANTIC
---------------------------------------------------------------
ROUTING 403 FROM-TO BCN-UA/LH-FRA-LH/UA-GVA/ZRH/PAR/MUC/
LON/DUS/BRU/AMS-YTO/YOW/YMQ/YHZ-UA/LH/
CO/AC-YYC/YEA-UA/LH/CO/AC-YVR-UA/LH/
CO/AC-LAX*
FROM-TO BCN-MUC-UA/LH-FRA-LH/UA-GVA/MAD/ZRH/
PAR/MUC/LON/DUS/BRU/AMS-YTO/YOW/YMQ/
YHZ-UA/LH/CO/AC-YYC/YEA-UA/LH/CO/AC-
YVR-UA/LH/CO/AC-LAX*
FROM-TO BCN-YY-GVA/ZRH/PAR/MUC/LON/FRA/DUS/
BRU/AMS-YTO/YOW/YMQ/YHZ-UA/LH/CO/AC-
YYC/YEA-UA/LH/CO/AC-YVR-UA/LH/CO/AC-
LAX*
FROM-TO BCN-UA/LH-FRA-LH/UA-GVA/ZRH/PAR/MUC/
LON/DUS/BRU/AMS-YTO/YOW/YMQ/YHZ/WAS/
PHL/NYC/EWR/CLE/CHI/BOS/ATL-UA/LH/CO/
AC-HOU/DEN-UA/LH/CO/AC-SEA/PDX-UA/LH/
CO/AC-LAX*
FROM-TO BCN-MUC-UA/LH-FRA-LH/UA-GVA/MAD/ZRH/
PAR/MUC/LON/DUS/BRU/AMS-YTO/YOW/YMQ/
YHZ/WAS/PHL/NYC/EWR/CLE/CHI/BOS/ATL-
UA/LH/CO/AC-HOU/DEN-UA/LH/CO/AC-SEA/
PDX-UA/LH/CO/AC-LAX*
FROM-TO BCN-YY-GVA/ZRH/PAR/MUC/LON/FRA/DUS/
BRU/AMS-YTO/YOW/YMQ/YHZ/WAS/PHL/NYC/
EWR/CLE/CHI/BOS/ATL-UA/LH/CO/AC-HOU/
DEN-UA/LH/CO/AC-SEA/PDX-UA/LH/CO/AC-
LAX*
FROM-TO BCN-UA/LH-FRA-LH/UA-GVA/ZRH/PAR/MUC/
LON/DUS/BRU/AMS-YTO/YOW/YMQ/YHZ-UA/LH/
CO/AC-YYC/YEA-UA/LH/CO/AC-SEA/PDX-UA/
LH/CO/AC-LAX*
FROM-TO BCN-MUC-UA/LH-FRA-LH/UA-GVA/MAD/ZRH/
PAR/MUC/LON/DUS/BRU/AMS-YTO/YOW/YMQ/
YHZ-UA/LH/CO/AC-YYC/YEA-UA/LH/CO/AC-
SEA/PDX-UA/LH/CO/AC-LAX*
FROM-TO BCN-YY-GVA/ZRH/PAR/MUC/LON/FRA/DUS/
BRU/AMS-YTO/YOW/YMQ/YHZ-UA/LH/CO/AC-
YYC/YEA-UA/LH/CO/AC-SEA/PDX-UA/LH/CO/
AC-LAX*
FROM-TO BCN-UA/LH-FRA-LH/UA-GVA/ZRH/PAR/MUC/
LON/DUS/BRU/AMS-WAS/PHL/NYC/EWR/DTT/
CLT/BOS/ATL-UA/LH/CO/AC-LAX*
FROM-TO BCN-MUC-UA/LH-FRA-LH/UA-GVA/MAD/ZRH/
PAR/MUC/LON/DUS/BRU/AMS-WAS/PHL/NYC/
EWR/DTT/CLT/BOS/ATL-UA/LH/CO/AC-LAX*
FROM-TO BCN-YY-GVA/ZRH/PAR/MUC/LON/FRA/DUS/
BRU/AMS-WAS/PHL/NYC/EWR/DTT/CLT/BOS/
ATL-UA/LH/CO/AC-LAX*
FROM-TO BCN-UA/LH-FRA-LH/UA-GVA/ZRH/PAR/MUC/
LON/DUS/BRU/AMS-DFW-UA/LH/CO/AC-LAX*
FROM-TO BCN-MUC-UA/LH-FRA-LH/UA-GVA/MAD/ZRH/
PAR/MUC/LON/DUS/BRU/AMS-DFW-UA/LH/CO/
AC-LAX*
FROM-TO BCN-YY-GVA/ZRH/PAR/MUC/LON/FRA/DUS/
BRU/AMS-DFW-UA/LH/CO/AC-LAX*
FROM-TO BCN-UA/LH-FRA-LH/UA-GVA/ZRH/PAR/MUC/
LON/DUS/BRU/AMS-YTO/YOW/YMQ/YHZ/WAS/
PHL/NYC/EWR/CLE/CHI/BOS/ATL-UA/LH/CO/
AC-HOU/DEN-LH/CO/AC-LAX*
FROM-TO BCN-MUC-UA/LH-FRA-LH/UA-GVA/MAD/ZRH/
PAR/MUC/LON/DUS/BRU/AMS-YTO/YOW/YMQ/
YHZ/WAS/PHL/NYC/EWR/CLE/CHI/BOS/ATL-
UA/LH/CO/AC-HOU/DEN-LH/CO/AC-LAX*
FROM-TO BCN-YY-GVA/ZRH/PAR/MUC/LON/FRA/DUS/
BRU/AMS-YTO/YOW/YMQ/YHZ/WAS/PHL/NYC/
EWR/CLE/CHI/BOS/ATL-UA/LH/CO/AC-HOU/
DEN-LH/CO/AC-LAX*
FROM-TO BCN-UA/LH-FRA-LH/UA-GVA/ZRH/PAR/MUC/
LON/DUS/BRU/AMS-YTO/YOW/YMQ/YHZ-UA/LH/
CO/AC-YYC/YEA-UA/LH/CO/AC-LAX*
FROM-TO BCN-MUC-UA/LH-FRA-LH/UA-GVA/MAD/ZRH/
PAR/MUC/LON/DUS/BRU/AMS-YTO/YOW/YMQ/
YHZ-UA/LH/CO/AC-YYC/YEA-UA/LH/CO/AC-
LAX*
FROM-TO BCN-YY-GVA/ZRH/PAR/MUC/LON/FRA/DUS/
BRU/AMS-YTO/YOW/YMQ/YHZ-UA/LH/CO/AC-
YYC/YEA-UA/LH/CO/AC-LAX*"FRA" wird da ja bspw mehrfach genannt, es müsste doch also möglich sein, LAX-IAD-FRA-BCN zu fliegen mit der fare... UA856 und UA952 haben beide W9 im KVS Tool. Woran liegts, dass ich das nirgendwo angeboiten kriege? Liegt evt daran, dass ich das ganze mit einer S-Fare ex-FRA verbinde?
Profis vor
Der vollständigkeit halber hiernoch die kompletten fare rules:
Code:
3RD LEVEL ADVANCE PURCHASE
[RULE APPLICATION AND OTHER CONDITIONS]
NOTE - THE FOLLOWING TEXT IS INFORMATIONAL AND NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
LEISURE FARES FROM SPAIN AND CANARY ISLANDS TO UNITED STATES
APPLICATION AREA THESE FARES APPLY FROM AREA 2 TO UNITED STATES. CLASS
OF SERVICE THESE FARES APPLY FOR ECONOMY CLASS SERVICE. TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION
FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE ROUND-TRIP/CIRCLE-TRIP/OPEN-JAW
JOURNEYS. CAPACITY LIMITATIONS THE CARRIER
SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS CARRIED ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES
GOVERNED BY THIS RULE AND SUCH FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE AVAILABLE
ON ALL FLIGHTS. THE NUMBER OF SEATS, WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE
AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN FLIGHT, WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE CARRIER S BEST
JUDGEMENT. RULES NOT APPLICABLE PASSENGER EXPENSES ARE NOT PERMITTED.
OTHER CONDITIONS EFFECTIVE 01AUG 04 NO MILAGE UPGRADE FOR S AND W
BOOKING CLASS POSSIBLE.
[ELIGIBILITY]
NO ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.
[DAY/TIME]
NO DAY/TIME TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
[SEASONALITY]
PERMITTED 06JAN THROUGH 31MAR OR 01NOV THROUGH 16DEC ON THE OUTBOUND TRANSATLANTIC
SECTOR. SEASON IS BASED ON DATE OF ORIGIN.
[FLIGHT APPLICATION]
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA EACH TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY LH ANY UA FLIGHT
OPERATED BY AC ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY CO ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED
BY UA UA FLIGHTS 4962 THROUGH 4963.
[ADVANCE RESERVATIONS/TICKETING]
CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS. TICKETING MUST BE
COMPLETED WITHIN 72 HOURS AFTER RESERVATIONS ARE MADE. NOTE - TEXT BELOW
NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. THESE FARES APPLY ONLY WHEN PURCHASED
PRIOR TO COMMENCEMENT OF TRAVEL .
[MINIMUM STAY]
TRAVEL FROM INBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN
THE FIRST SUN AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE OUTBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
[MAXIMUM STAY]
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 12 MONTHS AFTER
DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
[STOPOVERS]
2 STOPOVERS PERMITTED - 1 IN EACH DIRECTION IN AREA 1 AT EUR 100.00.
[TRANSFERS]
UNLIMITED TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT. FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED
SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT. NOTE - TEXT
BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. AS PER ROUTING ATTACHED. SURFACE
SECTORS NOT PERMITTED.
[COMBINATIONS]
ADD-ONS PERMITTED. END-ON-END END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED WITH FARES
WITHIN AREA 1. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS. TRAVEL MUST BE VIA
THE POINT OF COMBINATION. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE FOR CARRIER UA/CO/AC.
END-ON-END END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED WITH DOMESTIC FARES.
VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS. TRAVEL MUST BE VIA THE POINT OF COMBINATION.
PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE FOR CARRIER LH IN ANY RULE IN ANY
TARIFF. OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON
A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS -TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS MILEAGE
OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN
FARE COMPONENT. -TO FORM ROUND TRIPS -TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS A MAXIMUM
OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS PERMITTED. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS
ARE WITH ANY Y-/B-/M-/H-/Q-/V-/W- TYPE FARES FOR CARRIER OS/LX
IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF IPRA - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA
2 IPRAI - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATL. COMBINATIONS
ARE WITH ANY L-/S-/W-/V-/Q-/H-/M-/B-/ Y- TYPE FARES FOR CARRIER UA/LH/CO/AC
IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF IPRA - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA
2 IPRAI - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATL IPRSAA2 -
BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA ATL.
[BLACKOUT DATES]
NO BLACKOUT DATES APPLY.
[SURCHARGES]
NO SURCHARGE REQUIREMENTS APPLY.
[ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL]
ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL NOT REQUIRED.
[TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS]
NO TRAVEL DATE RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
[SALES RESTRICTIONS]
NO SALES RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
[PENALTIES]
CANCELLATIONS BEFORE DEPARTURE CHARGE EUR 150.00 FOR CANCEL/NO-SHOW/REFUND.
CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY. WAIVED FOR SCHEDULE CHANGE. NOTE
- TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. A. EMERGENCY PROVISION
-- TICKET MAY BE USED TOWARD PURCHASE OF ANOTHER TICKET DUE TO AN EMERGENCY
OF PASSENGER / IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBER OR TRAVELING COMPANION.
DOCUMENTATION REQUIRED. -- B. CUSTOMER COMMITMENT -- IF RESERVATIONS
AND TICKETING OCCUR ON THE SAME DAY A FULL REFUND IS PERMITTED WITHOUT
PENALTY WITHIN 24HRS OF PURCHASE. -- C. EXCHANGE - CHANGE TO 1ST
TICKETED FLIGHT / WHOLLY UNUSED TICKET -- FULL VALUE OF WHOLLY UNUSED
TICKET MAY BE APPLIED TOWARDS PURCHASE OF A NEW TICKET PRICED AT CURRENT
FARE LEVELS UPON PAYMENT OF THE CANCEL FEE CONTAINED WITHIN THIS
RULE AND DIFFERENCE IN FARE/TAX/FEES/SURCHARGES COLLECTED/REFUNDED AT
TIME OF EXCHANGE -- D. LOWER FARE INTRODUCED OR AVAILABLE IN MARKET
-- WHEN A LOWER FARE IS INTRODUCED INTO THE MARKET OR A CURRENT FARE
IS REDUCED / THE TICKETED PASSENGER MAY QUALIFY. ALL PROVISIONS OF
THE LOWER FARE MUST BE MET BEFORE DEPARTURE. NO CHANGE TO ORIGIN/DESTINATION/DATES/FLIGHTS.
ONLY BOOKING CODE CHANGE IS PERMITTED. -- AN ADMINISTRATIVE
FEE EQUAL TO CHANGE FEE WILL BE ASSESSED. RESIDUAL VALUE/IF
ANY/ WILL BE RETURNED TO THE ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT. AFTER DEPARTURE
CHARGE EUR 150.00 FOR CANCEL/NO-SHOW/REFUND. CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS
APPLY. WAIVED FOR SCHEDULE CHANGE. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED
FOR AUTOPRICING. --CALCULATE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FARE PAID AND QUALIFYING
FARE FOR TRAVEL COMPLETE USING FARES OF ORIGINAL TICKET DATE
/ LESS CANCEL PENALTY / REFUND RESIDUAL VALUE IF ANY TO ORIGINAL FORM
OF PAYMENT. CHANGES ANY TIME CHARGE EUR 100.00. CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS
APPLY. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. A. EMERGENCY
PROVISION -- TICKET MAY BE USED TOWARD THE PURCHASE OF ANOTHER
TICKET IF DUE TO AN EMERGENCY OF PASSENGER/IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBER
OR TRAVELING COMPANION. DOCUMENTATION REQUIRED. -- B. CHANGE MADE TO
OTHER THAN THE FIRST TICKETED FLIGHT -- TICKETS MUST BE REISSUED WHEN
ANY VOLUNTARY CHANGE IS MADE. ORIGINAL RESERVATIONS ARE CANCELLED
PRIOR TO THE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT AND THE NEW INTENDED TRAVEL IS
SCHEDULED. THE CHANGE FEE AND ANY DIFFERENCE IN FARE MUST BE COLLECTED
AT TIME OF CHANGE / REISSUE. -- IF CHANGES ARE MADE TO OTHER THAN
THE FIRST TICKETED FLIGHT THE FARE LEVELS IN EFFECT AT TIME OF ORIGINAL
TICKET ISSUE WILL APPLY PROVIDED THE NEW ITINERARY QUALIFIES FOR
ALL THE PROVISIONS OF THE ORIGINALLY TICKETED FARE / IGNORING ADVANCE
RESERVATION OR TICKETING REQUIREMENTS. -- IF THE NEW ITINERARY QUALIFIES
FOR THE ORIGINALLY TICKETED FARE / BUT RESULTS IN A HIGHER FARE
/ DUE TO DAY OF WEEK TRAVEL OR SEASONALITY / THE DIFFERENCE IN FARE AND
THE CHANGE FEE CONTAINED IN THIS RULE MUST BE COLLECTED AT TIME OF
CHANGE / REISSUE. --IF THE NEW ITINERARY QUALIFIES FOR THE THE ORIGINALLY
TICKETED FARE BUT RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE / DUE TO DAY OF WEEK
TRAVEL OR SEASONALITY / THE DIFFERENCE IN FARE WILL BE APPLIED TOWARDS
THE CHANGE FEE AND ANY RESIDUAL VALUE / IF ANY / WILL BE RETURNED TO
THE ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT. -- IF CHANGES BY THE PASSENGER NO LONGER
QUALIFY FOR THE ORIGINALLY TICKETED FARE / FULL VALUE OF THE ORIGINAL
TICKET MAY BE APPLIED TOWARDS EQUAL OR HIGHER QUALIFYING FARE -
USING FARES IN EFFECT ON THE ORIGINAL TICKETING DATE. -- FARE IS RECALCULATED
FROM POINT OF ORIGIN / ANY DIFFERENCE IN FARE / TAXES AND CHANGE
FEE CONTAINED WITHIN THIS RULE WILL BE APPLICABLE AT TIME OF CHANGE / REISSUE.
[HIP/MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS]
NO HIP OR MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS APPLY.
[TICKET ENDORSEMENTS]
THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED - FL / CNX / CHG
RESTRICTED - AND - CHECK FARE NOTE - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.
[CHILDREN DISCOUNTS]
CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE FARE. MUST
BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12
OR OLDER. OR - 1ST INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE
10 PERCENT OF THE FARE. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED
FOR AUTOPRICING. INF TURNING 2 YEARS ENROUTE MUST HAVE BOOKED A SEAT
FOR THE RETURN FLIGHT AND CHD FARE APPLIES FOR THIS PORTION OR -
INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR
12 OR OLDER. OR - UNN/UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11 - CHARGE 100
PERCENT OF THE FARE. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
UNACCOMPAINED MINORS UNDER 5 YEARS WILL NOT BE ACCEPTED FOR CARRIAGE.
[TOUR CONDUCTOR DISCOUNTS]
NO DISCOUNTS FOR TOUR CONDUCTORS.
[AGENT DISCOUNTS]
NO DISCOUNTS FOR SALE AGENTS.
[ALL OTHER DISCOUNTS]
NO DISCOUNTS FOR OTHERS.
[MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS]
NO PROVISIONS APPLY.
[FARE BY RULE]
NOT APPLICABLE.
[GROUPS]
NO GROUP PROVISIONS APPLY.
[TOURS]
NO TOUR PROVISIONS APPLY.
[VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY]
NO VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY PROVISIONS APPLY.
[DEPOSITS]
NO DEPOSIT PROVISIONS APPLY.
[VOLUNTARY CHANGES]
ENTER RD*31 OR RD LINE NUM *31 FOR VOLUNTARY CHGS.
[NEGOTIATED FARES]
NOT APPLICABLE. IC.INTERNATIONAL CONSTRUCTION NOT A CONSTRUCTED FARE
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