Miles & More Meilen für Amex Prämienflug?

[quadroll]

ANZEIGE

Hallo zusammen,

ich glaube dies war schon mal Thema hier im Forum - ich kann aber leider den Thread nicht mehr wiederfinden.

Ich plane zum Jahresende mit Singapore Airlines von FRA nach NYC zu fliegen und hierzu Amex-Punkte zu verwenden.

Sehe ich es richtig, dass u.a. Tarif in Buchungsklasse W durchgeführt wird und somit 0.5x Entfernungsmeilen geben sollte?

Mit diesem Flug würde ich dann meinen Senator-Status erneuern und bin etwas vorsichtig, da auf der Miles & More Website steht, dass "miles cannot be earned on flight award tickets and on travel-industry discounted tickets
(e.g. ID, AD)."

Vielen Dank
quadroll

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Rules for this fare

!FQN1-1*AP,PE,MN,MX,CD

FQN1-1*AP,PE,MN,MX,CD
1 - PSGR P1-2 ADT RULES DISPLAY
FARE COMPONENT 1 ADT FRANYC SQ WLPX PU 1 S
FCL: WLPX TRF: 1 RULE: 4535 BK: W
PTC: ADT-ADULT FTC: XAT-3RD LEVEL ADVANCE PURCHASE
MN.MIN STAY
FOR FARES WITH FOOTNOTE 3E NOTE - GENERAL RULE DOES NOT
APPLY
TRAVEL FROM INBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR MUST COMMENCE NO
EARLIER THAN THE FIRST SUN AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE OUTBOUND
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR
OR - TRAVEL FROM LAST INTERNATIONAL STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE
NO EARLIER THAN 3 DAYS AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE FIRST
INTERNATIONAL SECTOR.
MX.MAX STAY
FOR FARES WITH FOOTNOTE 3E NOTE - GENERAL RULE DOES NOT
APPLY
PAGE 1/ 4
!MD

TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 3
MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
AP.ADVANCE RES/TKT
NONE UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
CD.CHILD DISCOUNTS
ACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 67 PERCENT OF THE FARE
OR - 1ST INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT - CHARGE 10 PERCENT
OF THE FARE
OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITH A SEAT - CHARGE 67 PERCENT OF THE
FARE
OR - UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 5-11 - CHARGE 67 PERCENT OF THE
FARE.
PE.PENALTIES
FOR WLPX TYPE FARES
PAGE 2/ 4
!MD

CANCELLATIONS
BEFORE DEPARTURE
CHARGE USD 100.00 FOR CANCEL.
NOTE -
BEFORE FIRST FLIGHT DEPARTURE - USD 100.00
-----------------------------------------
THE ABOVE CHARGE DOES NOT APPLY TO INFANT
WITHOUT A SEAT.
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IN CASE OF TICKET UPGRADE THE ORIGINAL
NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE.
--------------------------------------------
INCASE OF NOSHOW USD 100 IRRESPECTIVE OF TICKET
BEING ISSUED WILL BE CHARGED IN ADDITION TO
REBOOKING OR CANCELLATION FEE.
AFTER DEPARTURE
TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE IN CASE OF CANCEL.
NOTE -
AFTER FIRST FLIGHT DEPARTURE - NOT ALLOWED
PAGE 3/ 4
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IN CASE OF TICKET UPGRADE THE ORIGINAL
NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE.
--------------------------------------------
NO SHOW FEE OF USD 100.00 APPLIES.
CHANGES
ANY TIME
CHANGES PERMITTED FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
NOTE -
BEFORE FIRST FLIGHT DEPARTURE - NO CHARGE
-----------------------------------------
AFTER FIRST FLIGHT DEPARTURE - NO CHARGE
-----------------------------------------
IN CASE OF TICKET UPGRADE THE ORIGINAL NON-
REFUNDABLE AMOUNT REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE.
--------------------------------------------
INCASE OF NOSHOW USD 100 IRRESPECTIVE OF TICKET
BEING ISSUED WILL BE CHARGED IN ADDITION TO
REBOOKING OR CANCELLATION FEE.
PAGE 4/ 4
!FQN1-2*AP,PE,MN,MX,CD

FQN1-2*AP,PE,MN,MX,CD
1 - PSGR P1-2 ADT RULES DISPLAY
FARE COMPONENT 2 ADT NYCFRA SQ QLPX PU 1 S
FCL: QLPX TRF: 1 RULE: 4535 BK: Q
PTC: ADT-ADULT FTC: XAT-3RD LEVEL ADVANCE PURCHASE
MN.MIN STAY
FOR FARES WITH FOOTNOTE 3E NOTE - GENERAL RULE DOES NOT
APPLY
TRAVEL FROM INBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR MUST COMMENCE NO
EARLIER THAN THE FIRST SUN AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE OUTBOUND
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR
OR - TRAVEL FROM LAST INTERNATIONAL STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE
NO EARLIER THAN 3 DAYS AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE FIRST
INTERNATIONAL SECTOR.
MX.MAX STAY
FOR FARES WITH FOOTNOTE 3E NOTE - GENERAL RULE DOES NOT
APPLY
PAGE 1/ 4
!MD

TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 3
MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
AP.ADVANCE RES/TKT
NONE UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
CD.CHILD DISCOUNTS
ACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 67 PERCENT OF THE FARE
OR - 1ST INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT - CHARGE 10 PERCENT
OF THE FARE
OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITH A SEAT - CHARGE 67 PERCENT OF THE
FARE
OR - UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 5-11 - CHARGE 67 PERCENT OF THE
FARE.
PE.PENALTIES
FOR QLPX TYPE FARES
PAGE 2/ 4
!MD

CANCELLATIONS
ANY TIME
TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE IN CASE OF CANCEL.
NOTE -
BEFORE FIRST FLIGHT DEPARTURE - NOT ALLOWED
-------------------------------------------
AFTER FIRST FLIGHT DEPARTURE - NOT ALLOWED
-------------------------------------------
IN CASE OF TICKET UPGRADE THE ORIGINAL
NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE.
--------------------------------------------
NO SHOW FEE OF USD 100.00 APPLIES.
CHANGES
ANY TIME
CHARGE USD 20.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
NOTE -
BEFORE FIRST FLIGHT DEPARTURE - USD 20
OR HIGHEST FEE OF ANY CHANGED FARE COMPONENT
PAGE 3/ 4
!MD

WITHIN JOURNEY.
--------------------------------------------
AFTER FIRST FLIGHT DEPARTURE - USD 20
OR HIGHEST FEE OF ANY CHANGED FARE COMPONENT
WITHIN JOURNEY.
--------------------------------------------
IN CASE OF TICKET UPGRADE THE ORIGINAL NON-
REFUNDABLE AMOUNT REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE.
--------------------------------------------
THE ABOVE CHARGE DOES NOT APPLY TO INFANT
WITHOUT A SEAT.
-------------------------------------------
INCASE OF NOSHOW USD 100 IRRESPECTIVE OF TICKET
BEING ISSUED WILL BE CHARGED IN ADDITION TO
REBOOKING OR CANCELLATION FEE.
PAGE 4/ 4

 

[Rambuster]

Amex bucht die Prämien in der Tat in revenue Tarife ein. Somit solltest Du auch die Meilen bekommen für den jeweiligen Tarif.
Der Hinflug scheint in W gebucht zu sein, der Rückflug in Q.

Da musst Du nachschauen, was das bei M&M und SQ als Operator gibt ?

 

[quadroll]

Amex bucht die Prämien in der Tat in revenue Tarife ein. Somit solltest Du auch die Meilen bekommen für den jeweiligen Tarif.
Der Hinflug scheint in W gebucht zu sein, der Rückflug in Q.

Da musst Du nachschauen, was das bei M&M und SQ als Operator gibt ?

W gibt 0,5x und Q gibt nichts (laut: Miles & More - Singapore Airlines: Earn miles when you fly)

 

[biff]

ANZEIGE

Amex hat sich wohl intern eine Grenze gesetzt, bis zu welcher Fare Basis die Flüge bei Membership Rewards/Prämienflug angeboten werden. - Nach Los Angeles mit LH hatte ich bisher immer darauf geachtet, dass ich die "V"-Klasse bekomme, weil dies früher die tiefste Klasse war, die man upgraden kann, und bei der es 100 % Meilen gibt.

Du kannst vorher auf der Airline-Seite eine Testbuchung machen, ohne sie dann abzuschliessen. Die dort tiefste verfügbare Buchungsklasse ist dann auch die Amex Buchungsklasse. Zumindest war das in der Vergangenheit bei Lufthansa immer so.