MXP - HNL auf LH in F für gut 4.400 EUR

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Hallo zusammen, ich habe den super Preis gepostet, und nun wollte ich heute buchen und musste feststellen, das LH die A Klasse Verfügbarkeit EX OSL und MXP gänzlich gesperrt hat. Sind nur noch Flex Tickets in F erwerblich. Wird da was umgestellt... habt ihr da News? Hoffe in ein paar Stunden ist die A wieder frei...Grüsse

Da würde ich nicht drauf wetten. Je breiter über solche Tarifoptionen gesprochen wird, desto mehr gibt es auch Umsätze und Bedarf und wenn LH dann merkt dass die strecke attraktiv ist dann wird sie nur noch mit Flex tickets bedient. Und nicht vergessen: LH liest hier auch mit und die Strategen dort haben nicht im Sinn uns gute Preise zu bescheren, sondern die Preise nach oben zu bringen was auch immer geht.

Macht das nicht jeder Verkäufer so?

Flyglobal
 
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Hallo zusammen, ich habe den super Preis gepostet, und nun wollte ich heute buchen und musste feststellen, das LH die A Klasse Verfügbarkeit EX OSL und MXP gänzlich gesperrt hat. Sind nur noch Flex Tickets in F erwerblich. Wird da was umgestellt... habt ihr da News? Hoffe in ein paar Stunden ist die A wieder frei...Grüsse

Ab BRU gibt es die guten Preise noch.
 
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ich werde im Juni ab MXP via ZRH/LAX (also mit 777) nach HNL fliegen, natürlich mit UA Flugnummer.... Es wurde in diesem Forum geschrieben, ich hätte kein Zugriff auf die F Lounge in Zürich. Der Flug ist von LX operated, muss ja auch dort einchecken (und nicht bei UA) und falls ich eine Reklamation habe, muss ich die bei LX vorbringen...! Welche Regelung würde denn dagegen sprechen, dass man mir die F Zutritt verwehren kann?
 

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Hab jetzt die offizielle Anwort gefunden


Following my previous e-mail I would like to confirm that codeshare passengers (holding a ticket with a marketing code other than the LX code) do not have access to the SWISS First Class Lounges when travelling SWISS First.
Kind regards
Sonja Ptassek, MEDIA RELATIONS, DCE


 
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Hola
Welche Regelung würde denn dagegen sprechen, dass man mir die F Zutritt verwehren kann?
Wie schon geschrieben, kommst Du mit einem von UA ausgestellten Ticket nicht in die Lounge.

Was aber funktionieren kann: Ein mobiler Boardingpass, auf dem nur die Flug-, aber nicht die 016er-Ticketnummer zu sehen ist.
Das hat nach übereinstimmenden Meldungen (ähem) schon mehrfach funktioniert.

Den mobilen BP kannst Du Dir ja in jedem Fall ausstellen lassen, auch wenn Du am Schalter eincheckst zur Gepäckaufgabe.
 

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...wollt jetzt keinen neuen Thread aufmachen, nur weil es hier um MXP geht, aber....
von den diversen Abflughäfen AMS, BRU, DUB, MXP etc. für so um die 4300 Euro in F scheint LH wohl (über FRA)alles geschlossen zu haben. Einzig mit United bekommt man wohl den Preis noch hin.
Über MUC geht auch noch teilweise.
Hoffe das dies nur mit dem derzeitigen Swiss-Angebot ab ZRH zusammenhängt
https://www.swiss.com/ch/de/Book/OfferBook/Group/GAq2
und dies nach dem 07.03, wieder wie bisher ist
 
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...wollt jetzt keinen neuen Thread aufmachen, nur weil es hier um MXP geht, aber....
von den diversen Abflughäfen AMS, BRU, DUB, MXP etc. für so um die 4300 Euro in F scheint LH wohl (über FRA)alles geschlossen zu haben.
Nach SFO habe ich eben ex OSL diverse Daten gefunden (nur Stichproben), an denen der Ritt für 4000 Euro zu haben ist
 
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LH/LX günstig in F nach HNL

Zur Zeit gibt es wieder "günstige" Angebote in F für Flüge ex AMS nach HNL. Hawaii, da sollte man gewesen sein :).

Wenn ich jetzt suche, dann finde ich ab Jänner 2017 natürlich jede Menge an Verbindungen. Was mich irritiert, ist die Verbindung LAX-HNL, die regelmäßig, unabhängig vom konkreten Flugdatum, zweimal auf der LH-Buchungsseite erscheint. Einmal unter LH Flugnummer, das andere mal unter UA#. Der gleiche Flug, die selben Zeiten.

Was bucht man da?
 
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Zur Zeit gibt es wieder "günstige" Angebote in F für Flüge ex AMS nach HNL.

...und wo ist da der "First & Business Class Tarif" (siehe Forum, in dem Du postest)?

Bitte um Details, sonst macht ein neuer Thread zu einem alten Thema wenig Sinn.

Was mich irritiert, ist die Verbindung LAX-HNL, die regelmäßig, unabhängig vom konkreten Flugdatum, zweimal auf der LH-Buchungsseite erscheint. Einmal unter LH Flugnummer, das andere mal unter UA#. Der gleiche Flug, die selben Zeiten.

Was bucht man da?

Die UA-Flugnummer.
 

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Das Einzige, das ich finde, ist der "normale" A Tarif mit 28 Tagen Vorausbuchung:
Code:
Swiss International Airlines (LX) ARCNL5W AMS to HNL
General notes

FIRST CLASS EXCURSION FARES               A
Between AREA 2 and AREA 1 FOR ROUND TRIP FARES
FOR ADULT
Category 4: Flight restrictions

  THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA EACH
  TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR ON
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
        ANY LX FLIGHT OPERATED BY AC
        ANY LX FLIGHT OPERATED BY LH
        ANY LX FLIGHT OPERATED BY UA
        ANY LX FLIGHT OPERATED BY LX
        ANY LX FLIGHT OPERATED BY OS
        ANY LX FLIGHT OPERATED BY SN
        ANY LX FLIGHT OPERATED BY WK.
Category 5: Advanced reservation/ticketing restrictions

  RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT LEAST 28 DAYS
  BEFORE DEPARTURE.
  WHEN RESERVATIONS ARE MADE AT LEAST 70 DAYS BEFORE
  DEPARTURE TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED AT LEAST 60 DAYS
  BEFORE DEPARTURE.
  OR - RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT LEAST 28
       DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE.
       WHEN RESERVATIONS ARE MADE AT LEAST 10 DAYS BEFORE
       DEPARTURE TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 10 DAYS
       AFTER RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 28 DAYS
       BEFORE DEPARTURE WHICHEVER IS EARLIER.
  OR - RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT LEAST 28
       DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE.
       TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 48 HOURS AFTER
       RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 28 DAYS BEFORE
       DEPARTURE WHICHEVER IS EARLIER.
         NOTE -
          WAITLIST NOT PERMITTED AT TIME OF TICKETING.
          TIME OF TICKETING IS DEFINED ACCORDING TO TICKET
          TIME LIMIT. IF TTL IS NOT RESPECTED ALL SEGMENTS
          WILL BE CANCELLED.
          ----
          DUE TO AUTOMATED TICKETING DEADLINE CONTROL
          DIFFERENCE COULD EXIST BETWEEN THE FARE RULE
          LAST TICKETING DATE AND THE SYSTEM GENERATED
          TICKETING DEADLINE MESSAGE.
          THE MORE RESTRICTIVE TICKETING DEADLINE APPLIES.
          ----
          ANY RESERVATION FOR FARES WITH TICKETING DEADLINE
          NOT TICKETED AT LEAST 26 HOURS
          BEFORE DEPARTURE WILL BE CANCELLED. THIS APPLIES
          IN ADDITION TO THE ABOVE MENTIONED DEADLINES.
          RESERVATIONS MADE WITHIN 26 HOURS BEFORE DEPARTURE
          REQUIRE TICKETING AT THE SAME TIME.
Category 6: Minimum stay requirements

  TRAVEL FROM INBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR MUST COMMENCE NO
  EARLIER THAN 5 DAYS AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE OUTBOUND
  TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR
  OR - TRAVEL FROM INBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR MUST
       COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN 1201AM ON THE FIRST SUN
       AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE OUTBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
Category 7: Maximum stay requirements

  TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 12
  MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
Category 8: Stopover restrictions

  STOPOVERS NOT PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
Category 9: Transfer restrictions

  5 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE
      3 FREE IN AREA 2 IN EACH DIRECTION
      2 FREE IN AREA 1 IN EACH DIRECTION
    FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND EMBEDDED
     SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
         NOTE -
          UNLESS RESTRICTED BY ROUTING ATTACHED TO FARE
          RECORD.
Category 10: Combinability

   END-ON-END NOT PERMITTED. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED.
   APPLICABLE ADD-ON CONSTRUCTION IS ADDRESSED IN
   MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS - CATEGORY 23.
  OPEN JAWS
    FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
    -TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS.
     A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
     PERMITTED.
     MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN
     MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT.
   PROVIDED -
     THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE
     WITHIN
      -WITHIN AREA 1 OR WITHIN AREA 2 OR WITHIN AREA 3
       COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER LH/UA/AC/
     OS/LX/SN IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF
      IPRA    - USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2 VIA
                ATLANTIC
      IPRAI   - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATLANTIC
      IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA
                ATLANTIC
      IPRSAA3 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 3 VIA
                ATLANTIC.
  ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
    FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
    -TO FORM ROUND TRIPS
    -TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS
     A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
     PERMITTED.
   PROVIDED -
     COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER LH/UA/AC/OS/
     LX/SN IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF
      IPRA    - USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2 VIA
                ATLANTIC
      IPRAI   - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATLANTIC
      IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA
                ATLANTIC
      IPRSAA3 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 3 VIA
                ATLANTIC.
Category 12: Surcharges

  IF INFANT 0-1 WITHOUT A SEAT.
    THERE IS NO FUEL SURCHARGE.
         NOTE -
          SALE OF THIS FARE IS PERMITTED WORLDWIDE.
          THIS SURCHARGE IS ONLY APPLICABLE WHEN TICKETS ARE
          SOLD IN ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF IRAN.
  THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
  TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN IRAN,ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF.
    A FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 180.00 PER COUPON WILL BE ADDED
    TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR ANY SECTOR BETWEEN EUROPE AND
    MIDDLE EAST.
    AND - A FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 265.00 PER COUPON WILL BE
          ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR ANY SECTOR
          BETWEEN EUROPE AND AFRICA.
    AND - A FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 265.00 PER COUPON WILL BE
          ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR ANY SECTOR
          BETWEEN EUROPE AND AREA 1.
    AND - A FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 265.00 PER COUPON WILL BE
          ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR ANY SECTOR
          BETWEEN EUROPE AND AREA 3.
    AND - A FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 55.00 PER COUPON WILL BE
          ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR ANY SECTOR WITHIN
          EUROPE.
    AND - A FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 265.00 PER COUPON WILL BE
          ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR ANY SECTOR
          BETWEEN MIDDLE EAST AND AFRICA.
    AND - A FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 265.00 PER COUPON WILL BE
          ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR ANY SECTOR
          BETWEEN MIDDLE EAST AND AREA 1.
    AND - A FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 265.00 PER COUPON WILL BE
          ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR ANY SECTOR
          BETWEEN MIDDLE EAST AND AREA 3.
    AND - A FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 55.00 PER COUPON WILL BE
          ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR ANY SECTOR WITHIN
          MIDDLE EAST.
    AND - A FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 265.00 PER COUPON WILL BE
          ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR ANY SECTOR
          BETWEEN NORTH AMERICA AND SOUTH AMERICA.
    AND - A FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 265.00 PER COUPON WILL BE
          ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR ANY SECTOR
          BETWEEN NORTH AMERICA AND AREA 3.
    AND - A FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 55.00 PER COUPON WILL BE
          ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR ANY SECTOR
          BETWEEN NORTH AMERICA AND INTL. POINTS IN THE
          CARIBBEAN AREA/CENTRAL AMERICA.
    AND - A FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 55.00 PER COUPON WILL BE
          ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR ANY SECTOR WITHIN
          AFRICA.
    AND - A FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 265.00 PER COUPON WILL BE
          ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR ANY SECTOR WITHIN
          AREA 3.
         NOTE -
          SALE OF THIS FARE IS PERMITTED WORLDWIDE.
          THIS SURCHARGE IS ONLY APPLICABLE WHEN TICKETS ARE
          SOLD IN ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF IRAN.
  THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
  TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON UL.
  OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON NZ.
  OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON QR.
    A FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 225.00 PER COUPON WILL BE ADDED
    TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR ANY SECTOR BETWEEN EUROPE AND
    MIDDLE EAST.
    AND - A FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 330.00 PER COUPON WILL BE
          ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR ANY SECTOR
          BETWEEN EUROPE AND AFRICA.
    AND - A FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 330.00 PER COUPON WILL BE
          ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR ANY SECTOR
          BETWEEN EUROPE AND AREA 1.
    AND - A FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 330.00 PER COUPON WILL BE
          ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR ANY SECTOR
          BETWEEN EUROPE AND AREA 3.
    AND - A FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 69.00 PER COUPON WILL BE
          ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR ANY SECTOR WITHIN
          EUROPE.
    AND - A FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 330.00 PER COUPON WILL BE
          ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR ANY SECTOR
          BETWEEN MIDDLE EAST AND AFRICA.
    AND - A FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 330.00 PER COUPON WILL BE
          ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR ANY SECTOR
          BETWEEN MIDDLE EAST AND AREA 1.
    AND - A FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 330.00 PER COUPON WILL BE
          ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR ANY SECTOR
          BETWEEN MIDDLE EAST AND AREA 3.
    AND - A FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 69.00 PER COUPON WILL BE
          ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR ANY SECTOR WITHIN
          MIDDLE EAST.
    AND - A FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 330.00 PER COUPON WILL BE
          ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR ANY SECTOR
          BETWEEN NORTH AMERICA AND SOUTH AMERICA.
    AND - A FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 330.00 PER COUPON WILL BE
          ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR ANY SECTOR
          BETWEEN NORTH AMERICA AND AREA 3.
    AND - A FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 69.00 PER COUPON WILL BE
          ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR ANY SECTOR
          BETWEEN NORTH AMERICA AND INTL. POINTS IN THE
          CARIBBEAN AREA/CENTRAL AMERICA.
    AND - A FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 69.00 PER COUPON WILL BE
          ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR ANY SECTOR WITHIN
          AFRICA.
    AND - A FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 330.00 PER COUPON WILL BE
          ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR ANY SECTOR WITHIN
          AREA 3.
Category 15: Sales restrictions

  TICKETS MAY NOT BE SOLD IN SOUTH SUDAN/VENEZUELA/NIGERIA/
  ANGOLA/EGYPT.
  TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN AREA 1/AREA 2/AREA 3.
         NOTE -
          EXTENSION OF TICKET VALIDITY PERMITTED UNDER
          GUIDELINES SET FORTH BY CARRIER.  CONTACT
          CARRIER FOR DETAILS.
          --------------------------------------------------
          SEQUENTIAL USE OF FLIGHT COUPONS
          THIS FARE IS ONLY VALID IF THE FLIGHTS ARE TAKEN
          IN THE BOOKED SEQUENCE. OTHERWISE THE FARE WILL BE
          RECALCULATED BASED ON THE ACTUAL FLIGHT ROUTING.
Category 16: Penalties

  CANCELLATIONS
    ANY TIME
      CHARGE EUR 410.00 FOR CANCEL/NO-SHOW/REFUND.
      WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER.
         NOTE -
          WAIVERS MUST BE EVIDENCED BY DEATH CERTIFICATE
          REFUND RULES APPLY PER PRICING UNIT.
          IN CASE OF FARE COMBINATION THE MOST RESTRICTIVE
          CANCELLATION CONDITION APPLIES FOR THE ENTIRE
          PRICING UNIT
          IN CASE OF CANCELLATION AFTER DEPARTURE REFUND
          THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE FARE PAID AND THE
          APPLICABLE FARE FLOWN. REFUND FEE APPLIES.
          CHILD DISCOUNT DOES NOT APPLY.
          INFANT WITHOUT SEAT FREE OF CHARGE.
          FULL REFUND PERMITTED BEFORE DEPARTURE IN CASE OF
          REJECTION OF VISA. EMBASSY STATEMENT REQUIRED.
          REFUND OF UNUSED TAXES AND YQ/YR SURCHARGE
          PERMITTED.
          - EXCEPT FOR PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE APPLICABLE
          TO U.S. AIRPORTS.
          --------------------------------------------------
          REFUND OF UNUSED TAXES PERMITTED.
          REFUND OF UNUSED YQ PERMITTED.
          REFUND OF UNUSED YR NOT PERMITTED.
          THIS ALSO INCLUDES LH/LX/OS/SN DCC - DISTRIBUTION
          COST CHARGE - SHOWN AS YR ON THE TICKET.
          THE OPTIONAL PAYMENT CHARGE IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
  CHANGES
    ANY TIME
      CHARGE EUR 410.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
      WAIVED FOR DEATH OF FAMILY MEMBER.
         NOTE -
          WAIVERS MUST BE EVIDENCED BY DEATH CERTIFICATE
          RULES FOR CHANGES APPLY BY FARE
          COMPONENT/DIRECTION. IN CASE OF FARE COMBINATION
          CHARGE THE  HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE
          COMPONENTS.
          CHANGE FEE APPLIES FOR EVERY SINGLE CLOSED
          REISSUE/REVALIDATION/REBOOKING/EXCHANGE
          TRANSACTION.
          CHILD DISCOUNT DOES NOT APPLY.
          INFANT WITHOUT SEAT FREE OF
          CHARGE.
          CHANGES NOT PERMITTED IN CASE OF NO SHOW. REFER
          TO REFUND SECTION.
          FOR CHANGES BEFORE DEPARTURE ALL CONDITIONS OF
          THE NEW FARE MUST BE COMPLIED WITH INCLUDING
          ADVANCE PURCHASE.
          IN CASE OF CHANGES AFTER DEPARTURE ADVANCE
          PURCHASE CAN BE IGNORED.
          UPGRADING TO A HIGHER FARE PERMITTED. DOWNGRADING
          TO A LOWER FARE NOT PERMITTED.IN CASE OF UPGRADING
          TO A HIGHER FARE  CHARGE THE APPLICABLE CHANGE
          FEE AND CHARGE THE FARE DIFFERENCE TO THE HIGHER
          UPGRADED FARE.
          REVALIDATION REISSUE AND MCO ISSUANCE MUST BE
          MADE WITHIN 24 HOURS.
          AFTER CHANGE OF RESERVATION BUT NOT LATER THAN
          DEPARTURE OF THE ORIGINAL FLIGHT BEING CHANGED.
          IF NOT DONE WITHIN 24 HOURS TICKET WILL ONLY BE
          VALID FOR REFUND OR NOT APPICABLE AT ALL.
          COMPLETELY UNUSED TICKETS CANNOT BE CHANGED INTO A
          TICKET WHERE ORIGINAL ISSUING CARRIER IS NO LONGER
          INCLUDED IN THE ITINERARY. TICKET IS THEN ONLY BE
          VALID FOR
          REFUND. PLS REFER TO REFUND SECTION IF APPLICABLE.
          -------------------------------
          IF CHANGES ARE MADE TO OTHER THAN THE FIRST
          TICKETED FLIGHT COUPON / THE FARE LEVELS IN
          EFFECT AT TIME OF ORIGINAL TICKET ISSUE WILL
          APPLY PROVIDED THE NEW ITINERARY QUALIFIES FOR
          ALL THE PROVISIONS OF THE ORIGINALLY TICKETED
          BOOKING CODE FARE IGNORING ADVANCE RESERVATION OR
          TICKETING PROVISIONS.
          IF CHANGES ARE MADE TO FIRST TICKETED FLIGHT
          COUPON /TOTALLY UNUSED TICKET -THE FARE LEVELS IN
          EFFECT AT TIME OF REBOOKING/REISSUET WILL APPLY
          PROVIDED THE NEW ITINERARY QUALIFIES FOR ALL THE
          PROVISIONS OF THE ORIGINALLY  TICKETED BOOKING
          CODE FARE INCLUDING ADVANCE RESERVATION OR
          TICKETING PROVISIONS.
Category 18: Endorsements

  THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED -
  FL/CNX/CHG RESTRICTED - AND - CHECK FARE NOTE - IN THE
  ENDORSEMENT BOX.
Category 19: Discounts

  ACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
        TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND PERCENT OF DISCOUNT
  OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITH A SEAT - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF
         THE FARE.
             TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND PERCENT OF DISCOUNT
  OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT - CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF
         THE FARE.
             TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN AND PERCENT OF DISCOUNT
  OR - UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 5-11. ID REQUIRED - CHARGE 100
         PERCENT OF THE FARE.
             TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND PERCENT OF DISCOUNT.
Category 20: Tour Discounts

         NOTE -
          DISCOUNTS ARE NOT PERMITTED FOR TOUR CONDUCTORS.
Category 31: Voluntary changes

  IN THE EVENT OF CHANGES TO TICKETED FLIGHTS
   BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY - APPLIES WITHIN TKT VALIDITY
    CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY
    THOSE OF LX INTERNATIONAL FARES
     CHARGE EUR 410.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE
     COMPONENTS - DISCOUNTS APPLY - NO FEE FOR INFANTS W/O
     SEAT AND
      REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
       PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
       1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON
       2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST
       BE DOMESTIC
       3. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT
       4. 4U/LH/LX/OS/SN FARES ARE USED
       5. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN
       PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED
       FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF
       6. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS
       TKT
       7. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
       8. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
       DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
      OR -
      REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY
       PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
       1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST
       BE DOMESTIC
       2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT
       3. 4U/LH/LX/OS/SN/US FARES ARE USED
       4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN
       PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED
       FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF
       5. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS
       TKT
       6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE
       OF PRICING UNIT
   REFUND VIA ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT
   ENDORSEMENT BOX- HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS.
  OR -
   AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY - APPLIES WITHIN TKT VALIDITY
    CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY
    THOSE OF LX INTERNATIONAL FARES
     CHARGE EUR 410.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE
     COMPONENTS - DISCOUNTS APPLY - NO FEE FOR INFANTS W/O
     SEAT AND
      REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
       PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
       1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST
       BE DOMESTIC
       2. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT
       3. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT
       4. 4U/LH/LX/OS/SN/US FARES ARE USED
       5. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN
       PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED
       FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF
       6. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS
       TKT
       7. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
       8. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
       DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
   REFUND VIA ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT
   ENDORSEMENT BOX- HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS.
Category 33: Voluntary cancellations

  REFER TO PENALTIES CATEGORY 16
Category 50: Application

RESTRICTED FIRST CLASS FARES FROM AREA2/3 TO AREA 1
 APPLICATION
   AREA
     THESE FARES APPLY
     FROM AREA 2/AREA 3 TO AREA 1.
   CLASS OF SERVICE
     THESE FARES APPLY FOR FIRST CLASS SERVICE.
 CAPACITY LIMITATIONS
   THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS CARRIED
   ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE AND SUCH
   FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS.
   THE NUMBER OF SEATS WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE
   AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN FLIGHT WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE
   CARRIERS BEST JUDGMENT
 OTHER CONDITIONS
   MILEAGE UPGRADE FOR E/ L/ K/ T  BOOKING CLASSES
   NOT PERMITTED.

Und der liegt immer so zwischen 4100 und 4400 Euro je nach Routing und Carrier Kombi
 
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klm57

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Also, nach der Umleitung:

Es geht um Flüge in F AMS-FRA/ZRH-LAX/SFO-AMS mit Ziel HNL. Wie bekannt, geht´s da recht "günstig" zu, jedenfalls um € 4.200.- herum.

Ich wiederhole: welchen Unterschied macht es, wenn ich auf der LH-Buchungsseite 2 fast identische, buchbare Flüge finde? Die Verbindungen sind exakt gleich, nur die Flugnummern unterscheiden sich für LAX-HNL. Konkret: LH9242 od. UA1170. Ist schon klar, Codeshares. Aber hat das Auswirkung auf Lounges, Meilen, etc.? Beim Buchen unterscheidet sie nur ein Klick!

Oder hat man mich forenseitig auf MXP gelegt, obwohl meine Frage ex AMS ist?

Wir werden den Weg finden :).
 
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Oder hat man mich forenseitig auf MXP gelegt, obwohl meine Frage ex AMS ist?Wir werden den Weg finden :).
Grundsätzlich ist es egal ex-was du fliegst, i.d.R. geht es eh fast immer den gleichen Weg via FRA/ZRH. Von daher passt es schon in diesen Thread verschoben zu werden. Vielfach ist der Fare ex verschiedenen Flughäfen möglich.

Wenn du in anderen Thread's dich etwas umssiehst, ist es immer besser die "originale" Flugnummer des ausführenden Carrier's zu buchen und nicht den Codeshare. Kann teilweise zu Problemen/Diskussionen bezüglich Loungezugang oder auch Umbuchungen geben.
 
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Grundsätzlich ist es egal ex-was du fliegst, i.d.R. geht es eh fast immer den gleichen Weg via FRA/ZRH. Von daher passt es schon in diesen Thread verschoben zu werden. Vielfach ist der Fare ex verschiedenen Flughäfen möglich.

Wenn du in anderen Thread's dich etwas umssiehst, ist es immer besser die "originale" Flugnummer des ausführenden Carrier's zu buchen und nicht den Codeshare. Kann teilweise zu Problemen/Diskussionen bezüglich Loungezugang oder auch Umbuchungen geben.

Vielen herzlichen Dank Zocky! Fühle mich bestätigt. Gut so! (y)
 

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Einzige Ausnahme sind Langstreckenflüge mit Swiss. Die sollten unter LX- und nicht UA-Flugnummer gebucht werden. Sonst gibt es wohl Probleme mit dem F-Lounge-Zugang in ZRH.
 
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klm57

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Einzige Ausnahme sind Langstreckenflüge mit Swiss. Die sollten unter LX- und nicht UA-Flugnummer gebucht werden. Sonst gibt es wohl Probleme mit dem F-Lounge-Zugang in ZRH.
Schon eigenartig, worauf man achten muss. Aber dank der guten Hilfe in diesem Forum geht's mit Links [emoji4] [emoji106]. Vielen Dank!